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. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell is our man in the spin room tonight. the one and only chris matthews is at centre college in danville, kentucky, the site of tonight's debate. chris, is this unusually high stakes for a vice presidential debate? >> well, it's great being with y
. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never...
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he says romney will win. >> i know they polled last night. >> bill: the only reason i'm bringing that up is you were dismissing the romney momentum and some people say it shouldn't be dismissed. bob beckel. directly ahead, laura ingraham on the security embarrassment in libya. later, megyn kelly, a big affirmative action case in texas. she's in kentucky and we'll get a preview of the debate from her point of view. all that after these messages he he he he he >> bill: in the impact segment tonight, new u.s. diplomat arrived in libya to take the place of christopher steves. that as criticism mounts over the obama administration protected the americans in that country. the obama campaign is calling all of the criticism political. >> the entire reason that this has become the political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of their stump speech. and as reckless and irresponsible. >> bill: with all due respect to her, that's more bologna than you could possibly fit on any sandwich. joinings from washington, fox news analyst, laura ingraham. here is a question
he says romney will win. >> i know they polled last night. >> bill: the only reason i'm bringing that up is you were dismissing the romney momentum and some people say it shouldn't be dismissed. bob beckel. directly ahead, laura ingraham on the security embarrassment in libya. later, megyn kelly, a big affirmative action case in texas. she's in kentucky and we'll get a preview of the debate from her point of view. all that after these messages he he he he he >> bill: in the...
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today that is usually a pretty good poll that shows romney with a very large lead in florida, i don't think he has that but they need to find a way so that going into the last two weeks with i the debates they hope helping them more they have got one or two or three paths to get to 27 at this, they are not if you talk to honest republicans they are not overwhelmingly confident that, you know, for months they said we would rather be us than them, i don't think you heard too many honest republicans saying that now but he think they have a chance if the next debate goes well, on the other side, their strategy is, their premise is we have got to lead, the electorial college is still very much tilting toward them and that they believe that their ground game is vastly enter superior, and early voting and the mechanics of turning people out on voting day they think are significantly better and i think based on what i have been able to learn that is not a crazy position to have and they want to go back to doing what they have done so well and i think you will see subterranean messaging on thi
today that is usually a pretty good poll that shows romney with a very large lead in florida, i don't think he has that but they need to find a way so that going into the last two weeks with i the debates they hope helping them more they have got one or two or three paths to get to 27 at this, they are not if you talk to honest republicans they are not overwhelmingly confident that, you know, for months they said we would rather be us than them, i don't think you heard too many honest...
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i love that. >> romney continues to surge in battleground state polls. in florida, tampa bay times, "miami herald" poll has romney with the biggest lead in weeks. american research group poll shows romney leading narrowly in new hampshire. 50 to 46. >> the next presidential debate will be this coming tuesday on long island. then on friday, fox news learned romney plans another major policy speech. the next one on spending. trying to redouse the $16 trillion debt. so much of which he blames on president obama. for wasteful government spending. >> bret: okay, carl. may dip in later in the show. thank you. "facts and truth don't have much to do with each other." observer might add nowhere does that apply more than in politics. doug mckelway takes a look at the facts and the truth from the vice presidential debate. >> they are the facts. they are the facts. >> vice president biden use the word "fact" or "facts" 26 times. ryan used it once. neither man were total fidelity to the truth. one exchange, he suggested seep yours receive more benefit under obamacare
i love that. >> romney continues to surge in battleground state polls. in florida, tampa bay times, "miami herald" poll has romney with the biggest lead in weeks. american research group poll shows romney leading narrowly in new hampshire. 50 to 46. >> the next presidential debate will be this coming tuesday on long island. then on friday, fox news learned romney plans another major policy speech. the next one on spending. trying to redouse the $16 trillion debt. so much...
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romney watching from his hotel in north carolina. the president watched returning from florida on air force one and made sure to congratulate his number two when he arrived home. >> i thought joe biden was terrif terrific tonight. i could not be more proud. i thought he made a strong case. >> today the campaigning continues. biden is in wisconsin and mitt romney is virginia before heading to ohio to meet up with paul ryan. let's get the reactions from both sides. cheering vice president biden, the happy warrior after his aggressive performance one that republicans are describing as condescending and disrespectful. look how the new york post put it. the contrast wasn't just between biden and ryan but between biden and president obama. the cover, vote for joe, vp shows obama how to debate. inside, smirky biden upstages his boss. with me, former ohio governor and former democratic ted strickland. did he show up the boss? >> no, but he showed up paul ryan and that's what i think is was important. he showed a lot of heart. joe biden in my
romney watching from his hotel in north carolina. the president watched returning from florida on air force one and made sure to congratulate his number two when he arrived home. >> i thought joe biden was terrif terrific tonight. i could not be more proud. i thought he made a strong case. >> today the campaigning continues. biden is in wisconsin and mitt romney is virginia before heading to ohio to meet up with paul ryan. let's get the reactions from both sides. cheering vice...
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that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular issues. i actually think what we'll see after this is, again, this gender gap that's been very strong in favor of the president. i think we'll continue to see it to grow. >> thanks for joining us tonight. >> good to see you. >> rachel, back to you. >> thank you, lawrence. there's been a snap poll in terms of results from tonight's debate. cbs news did a flash poll of uncommitted voters on who they think won tonight's debate. 19% of those voters said the debate was a tie. 31% say that paul ryan won. 50% say that vice president biden won. we're going to be joined in a moment -- we've talked to a couple of people who are functioning as surrogates for the obama campaign tonight. we're going to be speaking with a supporter of ryan and romney in just a moment, congresswoman marsha blackburn in a moment. while we
that indicate a closing of the gender gap with mitt romney running better now in the polls anyway with women? >> i've seen different polls. i think polls are all over the map right now. i do this this is what women were needing to hear tonight. what are the differences on particular issues. i actually think what we'll see after this is, again, this gender gap that's been very strong in favor of the president. i think we'll continue to see it to grow. >> thanks for joining us...
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you see they're each polling at 40%. back in 2004, more than half of catholic voters chose president bush, even though his opponent, john kerry, is catholic. in 2008, more than half of catholic voters chose obama. flash forward to this year, both parties had america's highest profile catholic, new york archbishop timothy dolan give the closing. and i want to bring in eric mara podi. you live this, study this. conservative catholics would never vote for obama and biden because of their views on abortion, more progressive catholics question the morality of the romney/ryan budget choices. which do you believe is the more predominant view among american catholics? >> i think it is close to split dead even on this. i traveled around the country and talked to people and report on this all over. we see a pretty even divide and i think the two gentlemen we saw on the stage, vice president biden and congressman ryan are the perfect embodiment of each of those two sides. you know, with congressman ryan, he's the kind of guy who mi
you see they're each polling at 40%. back in 2004, more than half of catholic voters chose president bush, even though his opponent, john kerry, is catholic. in 2008, more than half of catholic voters chose obama. flash forward to this year, both parties had america's highest profile catholic, new york archbishop timothy dolan give the closing. and i want to bring in eric mara podi. you live this, study this. conservative catholics would never vote for obama and biden because of their views on...
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all that will matter from here on on is the performance of obama and romney. i think the public will come away from this slightly more informed than they were before and it was a pretty entertaining debate to watch but it's not the kind of debate that will decide the election. vice presidential debates rarely do. >>. >> it could close the enthusiasm gap. >> but obama has to deliver on that. it can go away just as quickly. >> michael and joan, thank you both. stay with us. much more ahead. >> that's a tough format. it reminded me, i just told neil, of watching a musk objection run across the tundra with somebody underfoot and in this case when it came to style it was paul ryan underfoot because of the moderator allowing biden to do the interrupting, to kind of take control of the conversation. it came to style it was paul it came to style it was paul you can prevent gas with beano meltaways, or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and ther
all that will matter from here on on is the performance of obama and romney. i think the public will come away from this slightly more informed than they were before and it was a pretty entertaining debate to watch but it's not the kind of debate that will decide the election. vice presidential debates rarely do. >>. >> it could close the enthusiasm gap. >> but obama has to deliver on that. it can go away just as quickly. >> michael and joan, thank you both. stay with...
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it started off with the national polls have started to show mitt romney getting a bit of a bounce. mitt romney made some gains but president obama still with the slight advantage in ohio, that all pitch important state. tomorrow we'll see a lot of campaigning in ohio from the two republican candidates, so that's where they're headed and president obama is down, we assume doing debate prep before tuesday's debate. >> it's interesting. we had on former ohio governor ted strickland on yesterday. he was talking about why he believes the president is still ahead, even though he's seen the race close a bit. he still has a comfortable lead, at least it surprised governor strickland that it was still at the six point difference as opposed to the eight point. he does believe it's one of the topics that came up last night, domenico, the auto bailout. >> the obama campaign likes to say one in eight job are somehow tied to the auto industry. i checked that fact just in case it came up and talked to the center for automotive research and they said, yes, one in eight jobs are either directly rel
it started off with the national polls have started to show mitt romney getting a bit of a bounce. mitt romney made some gains but president obama still with the slight advantage in ohio, that all pitch important state. tomorrow we'll see a lot of campaigning in ohio from the two republican candidates, so that's where they're headed and president obama is down, we assume doing debate prep before tuesday's debate. >> it's interesting. we had on former ohio governor ted strickland on...
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the latest arg poll of likely voters shows mitt romney at 49% and president obama at 46%. that's in florida right now. that's within the sampling error. meanwhile, with just 25 days to go before election day there are some serious concerns about a republican financed voter registration effort in the state. cnn's crime and justice correspondent joe johns is joining us now with the latest on a criminal investigation making waves right here in washington. joe, what's going on? >> wolf, he is a veteran gop operative who just doesn't seem to go away. a few weeks agoaway. a few weeks ago, a wave of bad publicity hit the waves. he was disavowed by the republican national committee. tonight, some democrats that criticize his tactics say they're worried he may still be operating in several key battleground states under a different company name. >> it all started with nathan sprule. they came under fire for providing false information at the supervisor of election office. they responded by throwing him under the bus even though he denies wrong doing. by that time the republican part
the latest arg poll of likely voters shows mitt romney at 49% and president obama at 46%. that's in florida right now. that's within the sampling error. meanwhile, with just 25 days to go before election day there are some serious concerns about a republican financed voter registration effort in the state. cnn's crime and justice correspondent joe johns is joining us now with the latest on a criminal investigation making waves right here in washington. joe, what's going on? >> wolf, he is...
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democrats are charging again that the romney/ryan math does not add up. joining me now, republican congressman michael burgess of texas. he's also a member of the tea party caucus. thanks for being with us. >> great. good to be with you, richard. thanks for having me on. >> you bet. defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we are talking about. >> what national security issue justify an increase? >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. >> drawing down? >> don't cut the military by $1 trillion, not increase it by $1 million, don't cut it by $1 trillion. >> congressman burgess, what the democrats are saying romney would spend over $2 trillion more in defense than obama while at the same time, he's promising to balance the budget. how does that math add up? >> well, look, the first thing of course that has to be faced is january 2nd law signed by
democrats are charging again that the romney/ryan math does not add up. joining me now, republican congressman michael burgess of texas. he's also a member of the tea party caucus. thanks for being with us. >> great. good to be with you, richard. thanks for having me on. >> you bet. defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut...
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we've seen the effect of the last presidential debate between president obama and mitt romney, and overall they were not good. you know what, if you look at some of the polls, they're also not as bad as people think they are. post-debate you see virginia where president obama had a small but not insignificant lead before, now he's down by one. but in florida pre-debate he was 47-46 ahead. and post-debate he's still ahead. and ohio, 41-43. but post-debate 51-45. still a pretty damn large lead. he can build on that lead if he's aggressive in the next debate. i don't know if he needs to be as aggressive as joe biden was last night but aggression helps obviously in the first go around he was not. he was talking to diane sawyer. we'll see if he learned a lesson. there was hemming and hawing last time. and mitt romney talking about how he's not going to push for any abortion legislation. is that a lie? now watch president obama's reaction. >> is it a lie. >> no, i actually think his position on--when it comes to women's rights to control their own healthcare decisions what he has been say someth
we've seen the effect of the last presidential debate between president obama and mitt romney, and overall they were not good. you know what, if you look at some of the polls, they're also not as bad as people think they are. post-debate you see virginia where president obama had a small but not insignificant lead before, now he's down by one. but in florida pre-debate he was 47-46 ahead. and post-debate he's still ahead. and ohio, 41-43. but post-debate 51-45. still a pretty damn large lead....